Dr. Bill Hamon ....Christian International

topic posted Sat, December 29, 2007 - 11:21 AM by 
Here is a book that fell from the sky into my hands while I was in jail
Then another one by the same author...then another still
Then come to find out the auther actually is a bishop at Christian International Church just about 40 mins from my house......Must be a sign



www.spiritwatch.org/firehamonrevu.htm



"The Prophets Are Coming - Prepare"



The above is a heading on page 15 of the book. Here is what Hamon says under that heading:



I believe that this is an age in which God is raising up a multitude of prophets who are anointed and appointed- honest, true, trained, and experientially matured. But mixed in among these will be found those prophets who are ignorant, immature, and even false. There will be no place to hide the saints from them in this day of mass media reaching into every home. So the only true salvation from the enemy's falsehoods will be to expose the saints purposefully and properly to true prophets, educate them to discern true from false, and train them in how to respond (19).



Jesus warned us that there would be many false prophets in the last days. He said that as we saw the day approaching that many would come in His name and deceive many. But, is our only "salvation from the enemy's falsehoods be to expose the saints to true prophets, and educate them to know the true from the false?" Who will train the saints? Will the true prophets train the saints? How will the saints know the true prophets are the ones teaching them about false prophets? Could it be that the deception would be so great that false prophets could teach the saints that the true prophets are false? How are the saints to know? Is this their only true salvation from the enemy's falsehoods?



Surely, it is true that in order to tell the true from the false we must be very familiar with that which is the real thing. The prophets are not the real thing. Even the true prophets are not the real thing. The only real thing is the only true prophet and that prophet is the Lord Jesus Christ, our prophet, priest and King. If we are in intimate fellowship with Him we will know the real thing when he comes along and will know enough to tell the difference.



If we want to know the truth about the witnesses let us look at 1 John beginning at chapter 5 verse 7.



For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one. If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son. He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.



It is a wonderful thing when we receive the witness of others confirming what God has spoken to us. What a comfort, and assurance. But if no one else believes then our faith must remain true in Him even as Job who had the witness of highly intelligent and godly men who used scriptural truth in order to sway him from his trust.



This book teaches that there are many ignorant and uneducated Christians who must be taught the true prophets from the false. I say that this is true in a small way but the ministry of the prophet, teacher, pastor, or saint is to lead them to Jesus and to the Word of God, not to the prophet himself. The true spirit of prophecy is the testimony of Jesus.



New Doctrine Founded On This Special Ministry



Next, we are told with the word prophet boldly emphasized in the text, that Malachi prophesied the coming of the great prophet John the Baptist. We are told also that the ministry of John the Baptist was the Elijah ministry prophesied for the ushering in of the Messiah. These things are true. But now listen to the new teaching brought forth by this modern day prophet, Bill Hamon:



John came in the power and spirit of the PROPHET Elijah. Just as one PROPHET, John the baptist prepared the way for Christ's first coming, now a COMPANY OF PROPHETS will prepare the way for Christ's second coming. That COMPANY OF PROPHETS is being raised up in the 1980s. God revealed to me that there are 10,000 PROPHETS on the North American continent alone being prepared to be released within the Church. This COMPANY OF PROPHETS will come forth in the power and spirit of Elijah. They, as a corporate body of PROPHETS, will fulfill the prophecy of Malachi in relation to Christ`s second coming as John the Baptist fulfilled it in relation to Christ's first coming. A single PROPHET prepared the way for the Messiah of Israel and Redeemer of mankind. The COMPANY OF PROPHETS will prepare the way for Jesus the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. The one PROPHET prepared the way for Jesus to come and usher in the Church Age; the many PROPHETS will prepare the way for Jesus to come and usher in the kingdom age (23).



Now, what do we have up to this point? We have a distortion of the Scriptures concerning prophets in the New Testament. We have an office of prophet stretched beyond what the Scriptures teach. We then have actual threats of our being in great danger if we touch these apples of God's eye. Then we are told by one of these self proclaimed prophets that he has a new revelation with only one scriptural reference to what he teaches and that reference says nothing of what he is teaching us.



Here is the strongest scriptural basis for this new revelation. We find it on page 20:



There is a real sense in which John the Baptist was Malachi's Elijah-forerunner (Mal.4:5 with Mt.17:12,13); yet it is equally clear that, as a result of our Lord's rejection there is to be a more dramatic, FINAL fulfillment of Malachi's Elijah prediction (Mt. 17:11, 'shall', and Rev. 11). " J. Sidlow Baxter, Explore the Book, (Zondervan, Grand Rapids, Mi,:1966),Pg. 266 (24).



We find in the Scripture referred to that the disciples are asking Jesus about Elijah the prophet coming again. He answers them in this manner in Matthew 17:11-13.



And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias must first come, and restore all things. But I say unto you , that Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whasoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them. Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist.



he reason for the emphasis on the word "shall" in the text is in order to prove that there will be another coming of Elijah in the last days. It is a dangerous thing to bring a new doctrine in on the strength of one word.



The NIV version of the Bible quotes Jesus thusly. "To be sure, Elijah comes and will restore all things." If a child were to say to us. "I was promised that mother was coming." If we replied "Surely mother shall come as promised but she is already come and is here now." What would we say as to the meaning of these words. Would we say that she has come and must come again? I think that if we can make a doctrine out of the word "shall" then we can take tremendous liberties with the whole Bible.



When Jesus told his disciples that he greatly desired to eat the last Passover with them it was because he was to do a marvelous thing in giving them a New Covenant. The Jews, including Jesus had celebrated the Passover for years always with "the cup" on the table. This cup was the cup of Elijah. It was upon every Jewish table. After the cup was filled no one was to touch it because it was reserved for Elijah. They knew that Elijah must first come before the Messiah could come. Every year they were disappointed that Elijah did not come and drink the cup.



On that night of the last Passover, Jesus took "the cup" and said "This is the New Testament in my blood". Such a thing would have been unheard of for Jesus to even touch the cup but He had already explained to them that Elijah had already come and that He was John the Baptist. There is no need to wait any more for Elijah to come. He has come and has drank of the cup that God gave him to drink.



"Prophets Prepare The Way For Christ's Coming"



The above is the heading beginning on page 20. Two scriptures are given to prove that this is true:



Isaiah 40:3



The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God.



Luke 1:17



And he shall go before him in the spirit and power of Elias, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just; to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.



I will leave it up to the reader to read these verses and to determine if they are any indication at all of the premise that prophets will be the ones to usher in the second coming of Jesus.



Read page 21: Prophets play a vital role in God's predestined plan for the final return of Christ to the earth. Acts 3:21 declares that the heavens must receive (retain, Keep, hold, restrain) Christ in heaven until the times of restitution (restoration) of all things, which God has spoken by the mouth of all His holy PROPHETS since the world began. There are Old and New Testament prophetic scriptures which must be fulfilled before Christ can return. The PROPHETS have been given the anointing and responsibility to receive from Christ the proper revelation and application of these Scriptures They are hidden from the eyes of men until God's time for that truth to be restored and established (25).



Notice that the revealing of the Scriptures is hidden from men. This would of course include the underlings in the Body of Christ. Those underlings are those who are members from the headship ministry down. They cannot receive these revelations until the prophets reveal it to them. It kind of puts us ordinary saints in a perilous and dependent position, doesn't it? When Jesus said of the Holy Spirit "He will show you things to come" (John 16:13), I wonder if it was spoken only to the prophets.



Now we find that the term "restitution of all things, or restoration of all things" refers to the prophets who must restore all things so that Jesus can come from heaven. It puts a lot of responsibility on the prophets doesn't it?



Let us take a moment and look at the term "restoration of all things." Jesus himself said in Matthew 17:11. "Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things." Let us say then, with our brother that "Elias must come once again and restore all things." If that is the case the question arises as to what Peter preached in Acts 3:20-21:



And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began. For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you.



He then goes on to tell us that all the prophets prophesied of "these DAYS."



Certainly, "these days" are a long time in endurance. John told us that in his time it was the "last days." We are still in the last days. John the Baptist was supposed to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children and visa versa in these last days. Now, if Jesus is to be held in the heavens until this restoration of all things then who is the restorer of all things? Is it John the Baptist? Is it Elijah? Is it a company of prophets to come in these last days? Or is it Jesus Himself who will come from heaven with and for his saints and establish his kingdom upon the earth?



Let us look again at the Scripture. The Scripture does not say that anyone on earth will restore all things so that Jesus can come back but "whom the heaven must receive until the TIMES of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken. " Notice how I have emphasized the word "times". When it is time for the restoration of all things then Jesus will come and do the restoring. This is the blessed hope of the Church, not the hope that a company of glorified prophets will do the restoring for a Jesus who is waiting in heaven for them to do their work. He is able to do His own work in His own time and times.



"New Age Approaching"



This heading is found on page 21. I am sure that by this is not meant what we consider the "New Age" doctrine being taught by the secular religionists. But, what new doctrine is this under this heading?



The Church is now in the beginning days of the transition from the age of the mortal Church to the Kingdom Age.



I am sorry, but I was under the impression that the Kingdom was ushered in by John the Baptist and Jesus preaching that the Kingdom of heaven was at hand, or right here, now. I know nothing about the teaching in the Bible of the MORTAL CHURCH.



Then we have this statement.



In his letter to the Ephesian church he explained to them that they had been birthed and built upon the foundational ministries of the apostle and PROPHET (Apostle Paul and PROPHET Silas) with Jesus Christ Himself being the chief cornerstone. They were being built together as a holy temple in the Lord, and as the corporate Body of Christ in order for God to have a habitation and headquarters here on earth (26).



The scripture referred to is in Ephesians 2:20:



And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone.



Notice that the Bible has been changed from the plural to the singular by our author. Not only is this done but names are put in like Paul and Silas. This is gross mis-representation of the scriptures. He seems to be teaching us that the Apostle and prophet had to be there to establish that church. Is this done in order to set up some kind of a new hierarchy in order that a modern day church must have these two ministries in order to be called a New Testament church? Notice that it is said "in order for God to have a habitation and headquarters here on earth." This kind of scriptural interpretation bothers me.



Now we have another statement. "Ephesians 3:5 reveals that apostles as well as PROPHETS now have the ministry of revealing new truth to the Church" (27). Let us see if this is what the passage tells us:



Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit; that the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel.



We are told in the book that NOW, present tense, this is true, but the Bible says NOW, meaning at the time of Paul those things had been revealed to the apostles and prophets.


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  • Re: Dr. Bill Hamon ....Christian International

    Sat, December 29, 2007 - 7:20 PM
    Good critique, Passenger.

    The guy is right about one thing. In the last days there will be/are false prophets.

    Any prophets that think they are the way for salvation surely are false prophets.
    • Re: Dr. Bill Hamon ....Christian International

      Sat, December 29, 2007 - 10:54 PM
      <The guy is right about one thing. In the last days there will be/are false prophets.

      Any prophets that think they are the way for salvation surely are false prophets.>

      Not sure what you mean by that, but it is my understanding that even the least in the kingdom of God is greater then John the Baptist, who was as Jesus said the greatest prophet, so by that recogning every Christian is a prophet.
      • Re: Dr. Bill Hamon ....Christian International

        Mon, December 31, 2007 - 9:07 PM
        In I Cor 12 Paul doesn't think everyone is a prophet.

        7Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good. 8To one there is given through the Spirit the message of wisdom, to another the message of knowledge by means of the same Spirit, 9to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by that one Spirit, 10to another miraculous powers, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in different kinds of tongues,[a] and to still another the interpretation of tongues.[b] 11All these are the work of one and the same Spirit, and he gives them to each one, just as he determines.

        29Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work miracles?

        We are said to be greater (in some sense) than John, but does that mean we are greater in every way? When John preached and baptised,
        "The whole Judean countryside and all the people of Jerusalem went out to him." Mark 1:5. Most Christians have not preached (because they have been given other gifts than preaching), and few of those who do see the kind of response John did.

        Anyway this author thinks a lot of people are prophets, but doesn't seem to think all are. However salvation is said to depend on the true prophets.

        "So the only true salvation from the enemy's falsehoods will be to expose the saints purposefully and properly to true prophets, educate them to discern true from false, and train them in how to respond (19)."

        Perhaps I'm too hard on him, he may be thinking of the prophets as helping people to put their faith in Christ. But surely they aren't the only ones who can do that. In Romans 10:12 Paul sees preaching rather than prophecy as the usual way to salvation,

        13for, "Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved."[f]

        14How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them?


        • Re: Dr. Bill Hamon ....Christian International

          Wed, January 2, 2008 - 7:12 AM
          I agree with what your saying, I don't thing the author is using the term "prophet" in the correct sense that you are, to mean someone who prophecies, but rather to mean someone who delivers a message from God. So I agree with you and I think the author intended a meaning closer to what you are saying. That salvation is dependant on those delivering the true message of Christ, as aposed to those delivering a false one.

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